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No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:15 pm
by cirdec
There is some of a malfunction with AP that do not have GPS info. Do this to see what I mean:

1- Drive along without any gps device, then upload your no-gps wardriving file to Wigle.
2- Drive the same path WITH a gps device, then upload your new file.
3- Watch the map. You will not see any of your discovered AP.

The problem is: if an AP is first seen without a gps-able device, it will never appear on the map.

Even through its gps coordinates are uploaded later, it will not be counted as a "new network with gps" and it will not be added on the map.
So I think those AP without gps info should be removed from the Wigle base. And the parser should prevent them from being recorded.

Re: No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:23 pm
by gpsfreemap
Just wait ! Points are drawing in hours intervals.

Re: No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:58 pm
by cirdec
What do you mean gpsfreemap ? I know maps are not instantly updated.
What I say is that the "first seen without gps" AP will NEVER plot on the map, no matter how long you wait.

Re: No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:45 pm
by bobzilla
That seems unlikely, do you have an example? A certain bssid and/or ssid from a certain set of transaction id's? Do you have any filters on in the map?

Re: No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:18 pm
by cirdec
No filter on the map.

Exemple of SSID that do not appear:
  • Livebox-899c
  • Invite_BLG
  • NEUF_F9A8
Transaction id 20100907-00179 was made without a gps device.
Transaction id 20100923-00241 was made in the same area with a gps device.
None of the AP that are in the first file is shown on the map.

Re: No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:49 pm
by bobzilla
Ah, you are correct. This is a fun wrinkle of an issue with the runtime updating that we've been meaning to fix for a while. Those networks will show up on the map after the full rebuild that I just ran by hand, and that normally happens on Sunday morning, Chicago time.

Re: No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:27 pm
by bobzilla
Changed the runtime updates to handle this and some other cases now, so it'll show up in an hour or two from time file posted.

Re: No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:17 am
by i_do_dew
Out of curiosity, does this only affect the web map?

I may have seen something for some points under JiGLE but I had not narrowed down a repeatable case enough to say anything. I know from previous discussions that the web map doesnt get updated until 5-6am CST unless that has changed with using Google to view the data. My habit has been to update JiGLE for the counties I've driven after I've uploaded the data and sometimes it may take a day or so for the data to display. It could have been during a different update issue, but I use it more as a guide of where has been driven recently through the arbitrary date slider.

I just wish it was possible to script a query that would update all of the county bounding boxes one right after another. I have about 50 counties loaded into the app as both vector and raster. Ideally something I could launch and then go to bed. You wouldn't need to wait for every map to display before proceeding to the next one. Pie in the sky I'd like to select which areas would get updated in that way, but all is better than none.
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Re: No gps-able devices are corrupting Wigle

Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:21 pm
by bobzilla
Yes, was only a webmap issue. The webmaps have been updating hourly for some months now. JiGLE sourcecode is available, you might be able to rig up what you're asking for there.