Downloading data to democratize geolocation?

Suggestions for WiGLE/JiGLE/DiGLE

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I routinely work with larger data sets than this, and I do not see why this would be a burden to implement.
clearly.

"work with" and "provide generically" are hilariously disjoint.

In many, many years of operating this site, and being very active members of this strange and entertaining group
of people (and kittens), we have not figured out a sustainable way to deliver the data you feel so entitled to in the
manner you feel is easiest for you.

we routinely provide one-off snapshots of the dataset to researchers and others who make their requests via email to wigle-admin at wigle.net.
The reason i think is very simple.
Wigle sells the contributed data and earns money with them.

See faq:

Commercial Use

To help fund WiGLE operations, we offer licenses to a subset of the data derived from postings that our users have permitted us to use for commercial purposes. As a matter of policy, we will not comment on future, past, or hypothetical customers. To discuss a commercial license, please email us at WiGLE-admin[at]WiGLE.net

We additionally refuse to claim or disclaim any involvement with the alleged moon landings, area 51 and 'bigfoot'.


If wigle allows to download the data for free nobody must be pay for the data.

If you want to contribute cellids to a project and download the data for free, so i suggest the Mozilla Location Service.
Homepage: https://location.services.mozilla.com/
Apps: https://location.services.mozilla.com/apps
Download: https://location.services.mozilla.com/downloads

If you want contribute wifis, so i suggest for example openwlanmap.
Homepage: http://www.openwlanmap.org/
Download: http://www.openwlanmap.org/db.tar.bz2

But there exist another projects like opencellid, ...
Maybe wigle.net could in a first step export the cellids in the same format like opencellid and Mozilla Location Service?

http://mozilla-ichnaea.readthedocs.org/ ... xport.html

This would be very great.
[quote="Wolfram"]
If wigle allows to download the data for free nobody must be pay for the data.
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we do allow free non-commercial access to the data, per the eula.
that doesn't mean you get to have everything at once, or the way you happen to prefer it.

and we always have encouraged contribution to other sites as they have come and gone over the years.
...we'll still be here feeding the kittens when they go away again.

Postby dilandodo » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:40 pm

Dear Developers, Users
is there any way to get wigle API to work on it from ASP.net ?
reply me please any one can help here or to my email address Dylanoshlk@gmail.com special regards ...
If you want to contribute cellids to a project and download the data for free, so i suggest the Mozilla Location Service.
Homepage: https://location.services.mozilla.com/
Apps: https://location.services.mozilla.com/apps
Download: https://location.services.mozilla.com/downloads

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Mozilla provides cell locations downloads, but not WiFi:
WiFi Networks
The combination of a MAC address, a location and a timestamp is considered personal data in some jurisdictions, as it contains data about the owner of a WiFi network. The collection of this data is legal as long as an effective opt-out mechanism like the one we follow is provided. Lookups of individual WiFi records are prevented by the service by requiring a combination of two matching nearby WiFi networks in queries.

While we would like to openly share the data about WiFi networks, we do not know of any way to do so that would not lead to an exposure of personal data and made it possible to track the movements of WiFi networks over time.
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Disclaimer: not affiliated with any of the services I will be referring to, in any way.
Well, it seems pretty clear that downloading this data won't happen any time soon. If this service dies for any reason, all the data and efforts die as well (at least accessible to us people).
The only real alternative I can see after a thorough investigation on the web is to follow a actually open effort, radiocells.org (formerly Openbmap). They have the tools, they are open, they have some data (and they need us to give more) and they actually allow full download of everything: location, cells, wifi APs, in raw or processed formats.
I won't be leaving Wigle soon, but radiocells.org is going to be working in parallel from now on, I recommend you guys to do the same as its future looks much more sustainable in terms of data distribution and resilience.

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