Google Pie and Wifi Wardriving

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Postby arkasha » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:38 pm

Google has throttled scan initiation in Android P - 4 scans/2 minute maximum. Feel free to "star" the issue to help raise awareness within Google. Bug: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/79906367 Feature Request: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/112688545

Rest assured that WiGLE is going to keep working on this one, but it's certainly going to pose problems. This could be pretty disastrous for the networking, security, indoor positioning, and wardriving communities. The API documentation now states that Google plans to remove the startScan() call completely in future releases.

Postby bobzilla » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:44 pm

This is getting ridiculous, allow the user to decide battery life trade-offs, instead of forcing things to fail. And don't go the route of Apple, removing the ability altogether, making the platform useless for whole categories of applications for regular folks who aren't rooting/jailbreaking.
-bobzilla - WiGLE.net just a little bit
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Postby thwiggle » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:59 pm

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Google has throttled scan initiation in Android P - 4 scans/2 minute maximum. Feel free to "star" the issue to help raise awareness within Google. [url]https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/79906367[/url]
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This is really bad news but I'll do everything that is necessary to keep Wigle running smoothly on my phone, even rooting / installing a custom ROM when necessary when Android Pie arrives on my (futute) phone.

Postby arkasha » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:40 pm

we're committed to finding a way to resolve this for everyone, and wouldn't ask our users to decrease their own security just to stumble - we'll post info here as it becomes available!

Cheers,

-ark

Postby Iamien » Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:05 pm

There should be a permission created to "Exceed Wifi Scan Throttling".

There are some very creative applications for scanning beyond stumbling hat should not be casualties.

Start this feature request as well:

https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/112688545

Postby ViperVirus » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:34 am

Hopefully they will add a way to bypass the wifi scan limit in stock android although I tend to use custom ROM's like linageos so hopefully the linageos team will have a solution for this even if stock android doesn't although most of my wardriving devices are currently running stock android 5.1.1 or lower and I only use them for wardriving and some other stuff so I don't plan on upgrading to Android 9 anytime soon.

Postby om » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:36 am

so is there a way to overcome this with root permissions? maybe a magisk module or something?

Postby arkasha » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:31 pm

haven't researched it extensively because we don't want to ask our users to risk security problems in exchange for network detection - but by all means, let's study and collect options!

Postby om » Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:23 am

It could be an option for some users at least, e.g. I'm using a rooted device anyway

Postby Phlik » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:34 am

Having gone to Pie I am glad to see they haven't limited the bluetooth and cell scanning rate... yet.

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